threatening a lawsuit. the masseuse probably in hiding. i'm trace gallagher in for shepard smith. that's it for "studio b." shep back later for the "fox report." neil cavuto and your world starts right now. >> neil: 9/11 and today we remember two acts of terror. one targeting theñi nation's financial center. another one that killed our embassador and three other americans in benghazi 12 months ago. we've gotten the answers to this attack. we're waiting for answers to this one. today former new york city mayor rudy giuliani on both. also here, arizona senator john mccain on the threat we're still facing in syria and the president's response to it. welcome, i'm neil cavuto. across the country today tributes honoring the victims of

9/11. 12 years later. while in washington the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi also remembered. the white house promising to get bottom of that attack. a year later, rudy giuliani on -- waiting for the response, waiting for the details. still waiting, mayor. >> i'm surprised it's been this long. we have so little information about benghazi because questions are glaring questions. why was the compound not protected before? içó can see no legitimate explanation for why it wasn't given more security. why weren't sufficient forces dispatched immediately? the answer is they couldn't get there on time. of course you don't know that when you dispatch them. it's an emergency. you find out four or five hours later they couldn't get there on time. why all of the attempts to button up these people and not let them talk until now apparently. so far it still hasn't happened.

i think that -- it's unfortunate it gets september 11 because this the worst day in our history maybe. we lost so many people. i thought one of the lessons we never let it happen again. down on an anniversary raisess. did we successful learn lesson? >> neil: and did we focusing onthat we got better after 9/11. i worry on or -- look, people move on. hore on or, if they with forgetting t

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though it was important we attack. it wastaernt terrible,ume thing that happenee to do a slow contradictions. then all of a sudden we're goina because they're going to allow inspectis s that they claim they don't have. right?ti a day ago they claimedy didn't have them. didn't. negotiate with someone who lied for sevene argument he made lastthat these. you if we do the day. >> i don't know disagree. we're doing three weeks later still talking about it. >> neil: you think he should have moved unilaterally weeks

ago or a year ago.s critical toe security of our country, israel, turkey, so critical that it requires armed attack, you act decisively, not over a long period of time giving your enemy as much warning as possible. gel advice. dowait a week, a month, six months. what is he talking about? if this is a serious threat to a security of our allies and to us, then you act decisively, you act immediately and in a way in which you reverse that threat, not a small attack for two days and we can do it anytime. let's see if we can telegraph it so nobody gets hurt. i think he's having trouble selling it because the parts don't fit together. if i want to rally men to battle, i don't rally them to battle by saying there's a

terrible thing that happened, let's have a tiny, small attack. men don't follow me when i do that. that's why uk is not following, most of europe is not following and the united states congress was about to vote it down, i think even the senate. >> neil: viewed rudy giuliani, thank you very much. thank you for what you did several years ago. the five permanent members of the u.n. security council meeting this hour in new york as russia delivers its plan to place serious chemical weapons under international control. it comes ahead of a planned meefilg tomorrow between secretary of state john kerry and his counterpart in geneva. technical experts in the white house say the process could take some time. to arizona john mccain, he thinks this could be a russian plan to solving things. senator, good to have you.

>> thank you. by the way, i agree with what rudy giuliani had to say a few minutes ago. >> neil: he makes a lot of sense, talking about if you're going to do something, do it and dilly dalying or whatever has emboldened the enemy and given them time to hide things. to the mayor's point about what we do now, what do we do now? >> well, to the mayor's point, if you say you're going to take the enemy, take the enemy. i never heard of a president of the united states who said he would take military action then said he was going to seek agreement of congress. >> neil: why do you think he did that? i want to pick your brain. it does -- a lot of people think he seemed to be ready for a unilateral move. he was going to do it and many argued he would have the legal bounds to do it. he didn't.

why? >> i don't know except that it's been widely written about in the media that he took a 45 minute walk with his chief of staff and came in to meet with his national security team and told them that he was going to go to congress for approval. now, some say that the turn down by the british parliament of david cameron proposal had some effect. frankly i don't know. but it put him in a very difficult position to say the least. now getting back to the russians a second. neil, the russians have been supplying the syrians for years and in the last year, they've stepped up those supplies dramatically. about a year ago, hezbollah, 5,000 came in at the command of the iranians and the revolutionary guard step up support. the russians increased their supplies and it shifted the

momentum on the battlefield away from the free syrian army to bashar al-assad. that's the facts on the ground. this chemical attack shows that there was an area that bashar al-assad felt was so important in the grand scheme of his strategy that he was willing to use large amounts of chemical weapons. he used small amounts before. so now enter the russians, only by accident because john kerry in answer to a question, as you know, said they could get rid of all the chemical weapons and that could prevent a u.s. attack but they won't do it. clearly indicating that it had not been the subject of negotiations before. one thing you have to give him credit for, he's a wiley fox. he grabs ahold and now the russians are supposed to be the ones who are telling us that they would be in charge, disarming the guy they're arming? that is a very difficult one to

rationalize. here we are with members of congress unconvinced, unconvinced when the secretary of state said any attack would be unbelievably small? what does that mean? you know, we bombed kosovo 78 days before we finally prevailed there. so i think americans are confused and the president last night, although he made an emotional case about the terrible things inflicted on children did not are articulatea plan or strategy and a lot of americans were not only not convinced, they were confused. >> neil: i'm confused using chemical weapons as a rational for getting involved. as you know, we chatted about this, 100,000 syrians butchered by bullets, bombs, knifings. we do the line of chemical

weapons. do you think that's a fairway to go about this, that chemical weapons is a different standard, saying nothing of the 1700 killed presumably by chemical weapons and not the 100,000 killed by conventional means. could rogue nations take this as a sign, next time i shoot them, i won't gas them. >> italians a green line, rape, torture, murder. they're doctrine. that's different from random acts of horrible, unacceptable violence perpetrated by some of the -- those who are fighting against bashar al-assad and those atrocitieses are condemned. there's no doubt terror was part of the strategy of bashar al-assad to cow his people.

so 100,000 -- the president andd maybe it was by accident, maybe it was by design, said that it would be a, quote, red line. and then he was stuck with those words and we're trying to convince the american people that we're going to take these actions because bashar al-assad violated a chemical weapons treaty. >> neil: now we're not. either russia provided a figure leaf to to go ahead and not do that, but you think that would a mistake, right? >> i think the best way to bring this thing to an end is get the free syrian army the weapons they need. if you give me a second. look, there's al-qaeda, they're in syria and the numbers are growing larger. but still, the preponderance of fight something by the free syrian army who are moderates.

they will not be governed by al-qaeda so to somehow say this is a conflict dominated by al-qaeda, that is absolutely false. >> neil: how do you know al-qaeda won't take advantage? >> i think they will take advantage of it. but i think the syrian people will reject them and i think the free syrian army can be strong enough. there are no good options. two years ago if we helped2tjese people, he would be gone. it's going toçó be very toughñró the president -- the status quo, bashar al-assad has the advantage and continues the killing fields that syria has turned into is obviously the least acceptable option. i don't pretend it's going to be easy but i pretend that -- to arm the free syrian army and give them a chance to succeed. it's the only way bashar al-assad is going to have a negotiated departure. >> neil: senator john mccain, thank you, sir. >> thank you.

>> neil: when the president hit the pause button, senator rand paul went a step further telling the president to pull the plug. what kind of response do you think he got? rand paul is here to tell us next. of getting something "new." and now, there's a plan that lets you experience that "new" phone thrill again and again. and again. can you close your new phone box? we're picking up some feedback. introducing verizon edge. the plan that lets you upgrade to a new verizon 4glte phone when you want to. having what you want on the network you rely on. that's powerful. verizon. upgrade to the new moto x by motorola with zero down payment.

>> neil: we've got inside scoop on a nation that snoops. it's not just the nsa. consumer financial protection bureau is collecting private financial information on 5 million americans without knowledge or consent. is that legal? remy, you think no, no, no, this is not copesetic. >> it is not. this is not lawful. this is a warrantless search of our private -- >> neil: what are they doing? >> they're taking -- there's a federal agency that was born out of the frank dodd act in

reaction to the economicçó downturn on wall street. in response, we have this federal agency. cfpt. consumer protection. but it's becoming the problem. it's gathering private and privileged financial information from unsuspecting and unknowing individuals. your credit report, your bankruptcy filings, private financial background is gathered by the federal government and used for some undisclosed reason. the government hasn't shared what they're doing. >> neil: they're presumably looking out for you. that's what they said. >> that's right. the key is it's an allegation. doubt it, do you? >> there's a question of checks and balances. that's what wonderful about the country, we have resources to bring litigations to question. in the litigation there's a

counter claim bit federal agency that protects people. this particular plaintiff is actually violating consumers' rights. >> it's nonallegation so we havi consumer protection agency that said they're gathering this information. >> neil: but i'm not trying to excuse the behavior but if they're doing it, they're saying they're doing it because they need that kind of data to see if someone is trying to take advantage of you. >> correct. except the point is do you, do i -- i don't want the federal government tell me how to manage my finances. i don't want them looking at my credit. >> neil: would you want someone to tell you you're being snookered or the bank gouged you on the loan. believe me, we need another agency like i need another twinkie but do you understand that's what they're saying? this is about making sure the big guys don't take advantage. >> that may be what they're saying but to do it without my knowledge is unlawful.

>> neil: that point is very good. they're doing it and haven't told you. >> unsubstantiated. >> say it's substantiated. if it were, that violates privacy agreements. >> it absolutely does. what we're seeing from the facts provided so far, yet to be determined, is that when it goes in front of a judge and they ask through the subpoena power they have for these documents, they're limited. the argument's made saying it's overbroad, it's not relevant to the issues and the judge is doing the right thing. >> neil: you're saying they're miking our life an open book. >> we have to have checks and balances and that's an issue. >> they've gone too far. they have a multi-million dollar contract with a credit reporting agency and they're collecting our data, that's for sure. >> neil: thank you very much. >> trace: thank you. >> in the meantime, hello. this president trying to handle

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>> neil: obviously it's a time we mark a lot of anniversary, the 9/11 attack, the benghazi attack. sunday a financial attack. five years since the fall of lehmanen brothers and 530 -- 50 years since the assassination of john f. kennedy. our president faces a big crisis. to the author of the kennedy half century who draws distinctions. larry, big difference between the cuban mills crisis and syria but i want to harken back to

something about the urgency that was there and the president back then immediately shared the gravity and why an immediate response was required. john f. kennedy more than a half century ago. >> the 1930's taught you have us a lesson, aggressive conduct if allowed to be unchecked and unchallenged leads to war. this nation is opposed to war. we are also true to our words. our unswerving objection must be to prudent the use of missiles against this or any other country and secure their withdrawal or elimination from the western hemisphere. >> neil: the present president is using an government from history and the fact the civilized world and this civilized country as a super power cannot count countenance this sort of activity.

did that pitch last night work as effectively as kennedy's did back then? >> not even close. first off i would say one difference is that when john f. kennedy drew a red line, it was in indelible ink. you couldn't change the red line. that's what he did during the cuban missile crisis. the second was j.f.k. was consistently decisive in public. the handwringing was reserved for private meetings at the white house and elsewhere. but in public there was a unified team. everything was tied to the national interest of the united states. that's the big question that people still have after president obama's speech last night. >> neil: i also wonder, everything is about committing a lot of money. if you commit taxpayer money to something, you damn well better pitch it like the best used car

salesman. when it comes to the space program, kennedy was that and then some going full throttle. john f. kennedy at rice university. >> we choose to go to the moon. we choose to go to the moon in decade and do other things not because they're easy but because they are hard. because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills. >> neil: now, a trip to the moon verses national healthcare, very different. what do you think? >> well, that was one of the most inspirational speeches, idealistic speeches, any president delivered. tomorrow is the 51st anniversary of that speech. i hope people go to youtube and watch. it's the same length as president obama's speech last night. you can compare the two a bit. they're not both about war but

you can see how a president appeals to the idealism of the public. by the way, i hope they go to youtube after your show is over. >> neil: thank you very much. i was going to say ... it's always good to be a good communicator. fdr, john kennedy ronald reagan had that talent. this president is a dynamic speaker but he doesn't seem to often be able to close the deal. why not? >> well, last night's speech is an excellent example. he was going to deliver a different speech, as we know. and the putin peace initiative changed what he was going to say and it became a speech about apples and oranges and kiwi fruit instead of a clear message that could have been delivered during the time allotted. the message martels. it's not just how but what

you're saying and whether people believe you. believe ability is critical. you showed that clip of john kennedy given the moon speech. that was 1962 and in the speech, he actually says, we're going to meet this objective by the end of this decade, as he put it. and we haven't invented the alloys yet which will be needed to comprise the spacecraft. yet people were cheering and applauding. they were standing. they were thrilled to be inspired. it takes a special kind of president to inspire people under those circumstances. >> neil: i heard some of the speechwriters saying we really -- it's not feasible to put this in. he said put it in. put it in. larry sabato, thank you very much. rand taking a stand. why he says forget putting off the syria vote. how about calling the whole thing off. period. the senator next. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004.

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>> neil: forget delaying it, ditch it as the president asks congressional to postpone a vote on striking syria. rand paul says it's time to strike the vote itself. so the senator on the response he's getting, senator, what kind of response? >> we've been getting thousands of phone calls and 96, 97% against being involved in the syrian civil war.

when i meet gi's from our state, we get not no but hell no. >> john mccain was here, senator, saying we do have to get involved in this, we do have to give a very clear signal to bashar al-assad that this cannot and will not be tolerated and relying on promises from the russian president is not going to cut it. >> i guess my problem is today on the anniversary of 9/11, we ought to remember who attacked us, al-qaeda. am al-qaeda is involved in the syrian civil war on the side of the islamic rebels that some in my party want to support. i think it's a mistake. >> neil: he said, just to clarify, that there is way to distinguish between the al-qaeda elements and those more friendly and that we would not do that. you say there's no way to ascertain that? >> i say it's very difficult.

you know, in afghanistan, we have people joining the afghan army who say they're allays of america. i love america, until you turn around and they shoot you in the back. we've had 100 american soldiers killed by people who pretend to be our friends. when people line you have in syria and say please give me a stinger missile. give me a man -- i'm ready to be ford america. can we trust them? it's difficult to distinguish. martin dempsey said as much several times. it's difficult to term friend from foe. >> neil: since your name gets mentioned as a possible presidential candidate. you don't like to talk about that stuff but i wonder what your foreign policy would be as president or what you think any president's foreign policy should be with regard to the middle east? for a president paul, would it be just let them deal with this,

not us? >> you know, i consider myself to be a realist on foreign policy. i think we have american interest in the middle east, i think we need to and would defend our allies there, turkey's a nato ally, israel, jordan is a longstanding ally. we have interest there but we have a very high bar for sending our kids to war. the way i look at war is a very personal way. i look at it as if i were sending one of my sons or one of your sons to war. it's not that we won't fight but when we do, we have to have a clear american interest and clear military objective and clear desire and goal to win. the goal of the obama administration in syria is stalemate and they say there's no military solution. there's no military solution, why are they proposing a military solution? >> neil: that doesn't exactly jive with your dad. he was more or less, as you

know, what the hell are we doing? who are we siding up with. good money after bad. that was the gist. >> neil: you may not agree with your dad on every issue, neil. >> neil: you don't agree with him on this one. >> , no in general we seem to be somewhat on the same side but we may not be exactly in the same place. what i would say is that our foreign policy needs to be constitutional. it needs to not be rash. and when we go to war, we go to war reluctantly but all in. we go to win. >> neil: you know and you've heard before from those who argue within the party that the chris christie, the john mccain's, who might say if you were to become president, he's going to be weak on terror. what do yout( say? >> i think young of the few things we've told the world since 9/11 is we won't be trifled with, we won't be attacked. and if you kill our citizens you will pay the ultimate price.

this is true and it's important message but the other part of the message is we won't always be involved in the affairs of every other nation. but if you attack america, if you attack our soldiers, absolutely we'll respond with overwhelming force. that's the lesson of 9/11 and when people say this president not acting and drawing a red line threatens the credibility of america, no, the credibility of america and how we respond when attacked is very foremost and present for those who remember 9/11.-5 rru+k"á colleagues on the left and right saying whatever people's views are on syria, they're a great distraction, maybe deliberate deflection from the economic issues like a budget that's not done, a debt limit and in less than three years a healthcare law where a lot of implementations go into effect. is any of that ever going to get addressed soon?

>> they're a distraction from scandals like benghazi where we did have american interests threatened and american personnel embassador killed. so it distracts from that where nothing occurred to avenge their deaths or bring people to justice. we have a lot going on, a budgetary problem, a deadline coming up. debt ceiling crisis coming up. obamacare. yeah, i think all those do need to be discussed and that the president will often say we need to be doing nation building at home. but he's still preoccupied with sending a lot of money overseas. and this incursion or war in syria won't be free. free either in terms of lives or in terms of treasure. >> neil: quickly, if you could talk to vladimir putin, what would you tell him? >> well, you know, what i would say is that if he's sincere that we'll accept diplomacy and

negotiated settlement, my feelings is that diplomacy is a market transaction. if i give you $2 and you give me a loaf of bread. you think you wanted $2 more than the bread and i wanted the bread more than the $2, diplomacy is the same. both parties need to make a trade and both need to perceive that as being a victory. i think if we can convince putin or russia or china for that matter that we're such an ading partner to them that in their self-interest to make us happy, make the world safer, to bring iran down from the brink to brink north korea down from the brink, bring syria down from the brink. ifñi they tamp down the conflics it's to their benefit, i think russia could be a player as far as making the world a prosperous place. that said, i'm not sure i give

them carte blanche as far as trust goes. reagan saying trust but verify is an important one. >> neil: i hope i didn't cause a family squabble. >> we'll survive. thank you. >> neil: i bet you will. thank you. all right, job losses coming all because you're not buying. a fox business exclusive after this. of getting something "new." and now, there's a plan that lets you experience that "new" phone thrill again and again. and again. can you close your new phone box? we're picking up some feedback. introducing verizon edge. the plan that lets you upgrade to a new verizon 4glte phone when you want to. having what you want on the network you rely on. that's powerful. verizon. upgrade to the new droid ultra by motorola with zero down payment.

. >> neil: citigroup putting 2,000 jobs on the chopping block. bank of america, wells fargo doing the same. fox business' elizabeth macdonald broke the story. >> what is up is there was a sudden rapid spike higher in mortgage rates but only 1%. so mortgages were at 3.5%, now 4.5. maybe hitting 5% by next year. but i'm just surprised that the level of job losses.

23,300 people at wells fargo, bank of america, jpmorgan and citigroup. the fact they moved so rapidly to lay off workers tells me something else is going on. >> neil: what is it? >> i think they're previewing a higher mortgage rate. next year. in fact that's what we're seeing in the action. >> neil: how high? >> it could be go back to what it was last decade. 2010, we saw 5, 5.5, 6 percent. remember 9, 10% in the 90s? 4, 5, is historically low but we did see applications for mortgages hit 2008 levels and refinancing hit 2009 levels. the banks are saying refinancing is key. there's a dropoff in refinancing that's hurting revenues so they're laying off. >> neil: have they ever been wrong, the correlation between

housing swelling and the cursor with the mortgage businesses laying off people. >> i don't think they've been wrong. this is a typical boom and bust cycle. >> neil: these guys would know. they won't lay off if they didn't have the data. >> i would say to everybody, don't freak out. mortgage rates are still historically low but they're saying we're preparing for possibly higher rates. it hangs on what the federal reserve does on september 19 in terms of more money printing to buy mortgage-backed securities to keep the mortgage rates low, help keep them low. we're waiting to hear about that. some on wall street say the mortgage-backed securities, the feds could steep buying them but stop buying treasuries. this is a telling indicator there there are incremental job losses. >> neil: before the president

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it's time to talk to john stossel on the beat. >> should we bomb syria? >> i don't think so. >> he used horrible chemical weapons. >> we need to fix our country before we can go help anyone else. >> we should do something. >> what? >> i don't know what we should do, but we should help them out. >> when should we go to war? >> no time soon. >> no, but what do we have a military for? when should we go to war? >> when our own peace is in

jeopardy. >> but it's not our war. we have enough stuff going on here in america we need to fix. >> that last sentiment is the prevailing national sentiment in polls. it's not our battle, right? >> good. because we can't fight all these battles. >> were you surprised? a lot of us very up-to-date on what was going on and the risk of our getting there. you talk about the war fatigue or antennae up about getting involved in another foreign crisis? what? >> that. and who are we going to side with? are we going to support the so-called moderates? in america the press can't even agree on who's a moderate in congress. and somehow we don't speak arabic are going to know who's a moderate in syria to support? if we send a missile in it hits sand like clinton did in libya, what does that do?

if we kill him, who's going to be next? if we miss and kill innocent people we make more enemies. i'm a libertarian. i say we should attack if we're attacked. >> you and i were just schchatt during the break here somewhat facetiously what would the attitude have been of libertarians in the early 30s and throughout as adolf hitler was rising to power? >> we didn't know about the concentration camps. there ace big difference. many libertarians would have said we have to intervene because hitler was knocking over who countries. >> i think now it's chemical weapons. >> so we're going to say if you want to kill your people you've got to use conventional weapons? what's the point there? and we had clear friends, france, england that, were being attacked and we wanted to defend. >> interesting. john stossel, thank you. >> thank you. in the meantime, 12 years, 12 years. remember the day our lives we

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they never would. and so those cars would just sit, day in and day out, until those owners' spouses or sons or daughters or fathers or-mile-per-hour mothers claimed those cars and moved them. and tried to move on themself. i've always wondereded what they thought as each turned a key in that car. if only dad had slept in that day. if only mom hadn't been in such a rush to get to work that day. if only we could wind the clock back on that day. i remember one teenage girl crying. she had been arguing with her father that morning and never said goodbye to him that day. all she remembered was dad's big chevy that she had wanted to borrow that night quiet will i backing out the driveway that morning. little did she know she would be the one picking up that car from a train station, a park lot there, weeks later, car still there, dad not. a teenager's world shattered, whole lives suddenly in park. the dads who would never return home to catch their kid's game.

the kids who would never see their dads at any games. the familiar faces cheering on the sidelines suddenly not cheering, suddenly not there. and to this day, nothing brings it all back like all those images of all those empty cars in all of those parking lots. when the things we take for granted in life just stopped. until eventually the cars moved on and out, and the relatives who moved them tried to move on but never really could and never really had. even after 12 years. routines are a very tough thing to break. ♪

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